Dating apps
I admit I was curious. That's what led me to install a dating app in the first place...
Some say that curiosity killed the cat. After all, I was plunging into uncharted territory here...
Thankfully, after more than a year, I'm not that cat! In fact, I've been lucky to meet some truly wonderful women...
What have I learned through this roller coaster of a ride? Here's an attempt at synthesising it all...
Context
- I am looking for a genuine long-term relationship but am in no rush to jump into one. I believe that, if a bond is meant to be, it will blossom into a relationship if both parties put in the time and effort.
- I believe in monogamy. However, I have no qualms about meeting multiple women in the initial stages. My views on monogamy are for an exclusive relationship that both people are explicit about.
- I prefer meeting over texting.
- I put stock in the vibe of the conversation to decide if I'd like to meet someone. And, if I want to meet, I'm direct about it. Nothing to lose and potentially something to gain, right?
- I see first meetings as a chance to intellectually connect with the person without any romantic connotations. I was upfront about this.
- I am up for meeting a second time unless there was a dealbreaker that came up during the first meeting. This led to bewilderment when women vanished without a trace, though we had interesting conversations when we met! 😓
In the reflections below, I have only included women who I met at least once. This excludes the countless matches who didn't say a word after matching, who texted sparingly, who abruptly ghosted/unmatched or with whom the conversation reached a point where unmatching was the only logical conclusion!
Why write this post now? Unfortunately (or fortunately?), I've had sufficient interactions from which to draw some meaningful insights! 😅
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Ghosting is par for the course
Perhaps it is the digital nature of communication that primes some women into ghosting. Or, maybe they believe that they don't owe me the courtesy of closure, as we only met once or twice. Or, maybe they are avoiding what they believe will be an awkward/unpleasant conversation. Regardless of the reason, the result was a clueless me! Personally, I think it is basic human decency to get back to someone - especially if you have met them.
Such interactions ensured that my expectations around women's behaviour on the app, which were tempered to begin with, are practically non-existent now! 😂
Some data:
- Of the 19 women I met only once, 8 either ghosted or unmatched post our meeting without an explanation. Oddly, in 4 out of these 8 cases, we were texting about meeting a second time when the ghosting/unmatching happened!
- Of the 10 women I met twice, 4 ghosted or unmatched without an explanation.
- In the 7 cases where I met a women 3 or more times, no one ghosted or unmatched. Maybe, hitting this lucky number makes one immune!
So, I've been ghosted or unmatched (without explanation) by a third of the women I have met. Either there's something dreadfully wrong with me (!) or this is how things work on these apps! 😅
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Initial spark matters to some
As I wrote in the 'Context' section, I look for an intellectual connection when I meet a woman for the first time. For me, that is a non-negotiable foundational piece on which emotional and physical connections can be built. And, in my view, building these connections takes time - something I am willing to give by meeting the woman a second time to get to know her better.
However, I met women who decided, after one meeting, that there was "no spark" or that they "do not see this going anywhere". In these 6 cases, there were no apparent dealbreakers and there was a healthy flow of conversation when we met. I appreciate the direct way in which these women expressed themselves (much better than ghosting!). Such interactions showed me that making judgements based on one meeting is a way of operating too.
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Bonds are fickle and transient
This powerful realisation reared its ugly head in cases where we had met 3 or more times; I saw how seemingly innocuous elements could utterly destroy the bonds that we were building. Now, it's reached a stage where I expect something to come up and derail a promising rapport! 😑 A few snippets from different interactions...- She wanted an exclusive relationship after meeting thrice. While we were building a great bond and there was potential, I wasn't ready for exclusivity yet. She told me she felt 'disrespected' because I was meeting other women and that's how it ended...
- We met 7 times in a variety of contexts; I thought it was going well and that, perhaps, we were nearing the stage of getting into a relationship. However, it emerged that she wanted someone who would 'constantly communicate' with her throughout the day and that was a dealbreaker for her. Initially, she thought that it wasn't critical but, over time, realised that it mattered a lot to her and this doomed our bond...
- We consistently met over 1.5 months though our homes were ~20 km apart (that's a lot in Bangalore! 😅). We reached a comfort level that suggested (to me) that things were headed in the right direction. Eventually, she decided to go ahead with a man who she was able to meet more frequently since their homes were close by. Distance played a role in sounding the death knell of our bond...
- After 3 meetings during which we hit it off well, she realised that she wasn't over her ex-boyfriend. Even though she enjoyed my company and felt that this could go somewhere, she wasn't ready. Our bond was nipped in the bud...
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- She wanted an exclusive relationship after meeting thrice. While we were building a great bond and there was potential, I wasn't ready for exclusivity yet. She told me she felt 'disrespected' because I was meeting other women and that's how it ended...
- We met 7 times in a variety of contexts; I thought it was going well and that, perhaps, we were nearing the stage of getting into a relationship. However, it emerged that she wanted someone who would 'constantly communicate' with her throughout the day and that was a dealbreaker for her. Initially, she thought that it wasn't critical but, over time, realised that it mattered a lot to her and this doomed our bond...
- We consistently met over 1.5 months though our homes were ~20 km apart (that's a lot in Bangalore! 😅). We reached a comfort level that suggested (to me) that things were headed in the right direction. Eventually, she decided to go ahead with a man who she was able to meet more frequently since their homes were close by. Distance played a role in sounding the death knell of our bond...
- After 3 meetings during which we hit it off well, she realised that she wasn't over her ex-boyfriend. Even though she enjoyed my company and felt that this could go somewhere, she wasn't ready. Our bond was nipped in the bud...
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Cursory reading of profiles
3 of the women whom I met once failed to read that I had mentioned "Don't want children" on my profile while they wanted children (but hadn't displayed it on their profiles 😒). A chunk of time could have been saved all around had they noticed this in the first place.
Besides these cases, there have been numerous instances where I have had interesting conversations with women (via the app) before it eventually came up that they wanted children or that they wanted someone who would drink and/or smoke up with them.
My conclusion is that, with the sheer volume of digital content and stimulation that we are exposed to, people casually skimming profiles is expected. To save time and avoid such disappointments, I now draw attention to these aspects early in the conversation so that we can unmatch if there is a fundamental misalignment.
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People are complex!
This got reinforced time and again. Feelings grow and die, priorities change, irrational/emotional decisions are made, circumstances evolve, timing matters, intangibles matter... One woman decided I wasn't impulsive enough for her tastes while another decided that, though she enjoyed the time we spent, she didn't want her life partner to be someone who she met through a dating app. One woman concluded that she would never be physically attracted to me while another pivoted and decided that polyamory was more her cup of tea. I also saw, up close, how past relationships and marriages can scar a person and how it deeply impacted the way they approached their interactions with me.
I learned a great deal about myself too! By pushing myself outside my introvert comfort zone, I discovered latent dimensions to my personality: the ability to discuss deep matters and open up to people I'd recently met; the willingness to risk vulnerability; the resilience to continue being immersed in this personal journey despite baffling shocks; the premium that I place on respecting time and putting in effort; and my need to have space and independence even if I am in a relationship.
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Unfortunately (or fortunately - who knows?!), I'm still single! Looking back at these experiences, I can definitely say that my initial curiosity has been well and truly satiated! 😂
This post feels more personal because people tend to not talk about things like being ghosted or reasons why things ended with people. And, it's easy to go with the rhetoric of the people out there aren't great.
ReplyDeleteDo you think anything has changed or shifted at all in the way you approach relationships through this exercise? You've learnt things about yourself clearly (and about other people) but is anything now more flexible or more important than it was before?
I don't agree with that rhetoric - I've met some great women! In fact, I have never been catfished and everyone has turned out to be a reasonably decent approximation of their profile.
DeleteThis journey has been an experiment for me in some senses. Aspects like respecting time, putting in efforts and requiring an intellectual connection have magnified in importance. However, something like food preferences was a pleasant surprise since I found women to be quite flexible when I thought this could be difficult!
Religion and political leanings don't matter much to me. It might matter to some women of course...
What I'm curious about is, what made you unmatch someone or not see them another time? You definitely said things that were important to you (intellectual conversation in the beginning, no kids, exclusivity etc.) in a partner, but of the women you chose to not move forward with, where did they fall in the rubric? Did you discover things that put you off that you hadn't accounted for or thought would be important?
ReplyDeleteThanks for the comment. That's indeed a deep and loaded question! 😛
DeleteOf the 36 women I met at least once, I decided not to go ahead with seeing them again in 6 instances. This does not include the 3 women who wanted children.
Of these 6 instances:
1.) In 3 of the cases, I was putting in the lion's share of the effort to initiate, meet and converse. I'm willing to take the first step (maybe even the second and third steps!) but, there's a limit. In my view, in the initial stages of building a bond, both parties need to put in the time and effort. I gave them the benefit of the doubt but concluded that it is not fair on me to continue meeting/conversing with them.
2.) In 2 of the cases, I felt that we (the woman and I) were not compatible in the long term. I asked myself if I could see them as partners for life; the answer was 'No'. So, rather than meet them again, I chose to be direct about it with them. In fact, I am still friends with one of them as we have certain things in common that make the friendship interesting and substantial. :-)
3.) In 1 of the cases, the woman told me that her barometer for deciding if a date went well was if it ended in us sleeping together. Since that is diametrically opposite to how I operate, I decided to not see her again.
In the remaining instances, either they ghosted or chose to end things for a myriad of reasons - some of which I covered in the "Bonds are fickle and transient" section.
Through this, I realised that efforts matter to me (a lot!) and that, at times, there are intangibles at play that are hard to explain. I guess that's the irrational side of me talking! 😂
A layer below this analysis is how women have been socialized which makes it easier for them to ghost, or appear to have an interesting conversation but actually secretly disliking everything about the conversation. And for that you have the patriarchy to blame. Men historically do not and have not taken rejection well. Men want to argue with you and debate why you don't like them. Men have been prone to violence to perceived rejection etc. etc. and so women have learnt to not put themselves in situations like that. Obviously you're not someone to do any of those things, but we've all known people that are capable? Obviously ghosting is not fair to the nice, kind men? But it's an unfortunate byproduct of patriarchy.
ReplyDeleteThese seem like valid points.
DeleteThrough this post, I was narrating my experiences/views. By the nature of unmatching/ghosting, it isn't possible for me to find out why those women chose that route. So, anything I say would be conjecture at best - this is why I chose not to attempt that kind of analysis.
I just read it, and oh my! Another really good post. Definitely different from all your other posts but really really insightful and honest...
ReplyDeleteI think this post is one of your best! So relevant for today’s times and a problem so many folks in and around our age group are facing.
I read the comments and your responses to them too, great conversations. It really shows that you’ve put a lot of effort and were full 100% in the process. I’m sure the whole experience would have been a great learning experience for you.
Thanks for the comment!
DeleteYes, it's been an insightful experience for sure. :-)
I was telling another friend recently that, while I was meeting and getting to know these women over the past year, I had on my 'experience' hat. When I sat down to write this post, my 'research' hat stepped in!
It must be emotionally taxing to meet so many people.
ReplyDeleteWomen get to chat or meet disproportionately large number of people than us.. That may be yet another contributing factor behind ghosting casually.
Frankly, I didn't find it emotionally taxing or exhausting. I looked at each meeting as a chance to get to know and converse with a new person; this kept it fresh and my enthusiasm didn't wane.
DeleteI agree that women get to chat with a disproportionately large number of people compared to men - this is something that different women whom I have met have told me. However, when it comes to actually meeting in-person, I think the numbers might be more comparable...?
I have zero experience in this but it was very interesting to read your experiences.
ReplyDeleteI love how you talk about real instances that most people don’t! It surely is a journey of knowing others and yourself it seems. But I hope the time and effort investment pays off soon!
Doom scrolling got me here and this post made me stay.
ReplyDeleteThese are quite interesting observations you have documented.
It's also great to see that there is some 'data' to support and shape these observations.
The data caught my eye and started to shape an alternate pov. A more self reflective and inward looking perspective.
Per the post, a majority of these dates fall under the first and second category. The dates usually end with a rude unmatch, or a more mature - don't see this working out.
I wonder if there is something which goes on pre, during, and post these dates which nudges them to this eventuality. Given the digital way of communication and the relentless reliance on about me sections, pictures, and vocal tones; could it be that the person the 'prospect' is talking to is quite different from the person the prospect meets in flesh and blood?
What I essentially want to draw attention to with this rather long-ish comment is that, there is substantial data to indicate that there may something in the pre-during-post first date which may be drawing things to an end. And the reason could also lie in the digital experience fragments put out on these apps like - pictures / about me sections / a particular vocal tone/ type of probing questions asked during the non verbal exchange.
Could it further be that the prospects feel a particular way in person which is at odds with the way they felt during course of the digitally aided conversation. Feeling a particular way is what the dating apps haven't been able to get right. And I belive feeling a particular way goes a long way in determining if a prospect goes back to being a nobody/somebody or graduates to a partner.
Not saying that the seeker is putting out an image / personality which is wildly different from the actual person in flesh, but that the prospects experience some dissonance when they meet the seeker. A simple - What do you think about the colour blue? can seem to be an innocuous question over text, but the way it is worded, when is it introduced, and what tone is it asked in can paint quite a different picture when asked in person.
This said, it was great reading through the succinct dissection and astute observations made on this post. I admire the writer's candor and the frankness with which he has put things out there. The intent of this comment was just to lend an alternate pov and not disregard all that's been said and documented here.
Cheers.